{"id":5016,"date":"2012-08-14T01:41:50","date_gmt":"2012-08-13T13:41:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/philcook.net\/beerdiary\/?p=5016"},"modified":"2026-02-07T10:37:37","modified_gmt":"2026-02-06T21:37:37","slug":"beer-diary-podcast-s02e04","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/philcook.net\/beerdiary\/2012\/08\/14\/beer-diary-podcast-s02e04\/","title":{"rendered":"Beer Diary Podcast s02e04: Reintroduction \/ Recap"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>We here present an unintentionally-apt reintroduction and recap podcast episode, with less of a Topic For Discussion and more just two guys sitting down over a few beers. George and I hadn&#8217;t caught up for a while, and now \u2014 collectively \u2014 we haven&#8217;t seen <em>you lot<\/em> in some time, either. But nevermind that; welcome back and hello again.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"border: medium;\" title=\"Embed Player\" src=\"https:\/\/play.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/2034432\/height\/128\/theme\/modern\/size\/standard\/thumbnail\/no\/custom-color\/24890d\/time-start\/00:00:00\/playlist-height\/200\/direction\/backward\/download\/yes\/font-color\/FFFFFF\" width=\"100%\" height=\"128\" scrolling=\"no\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>As always,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/beerdiary\/s02e04_Recap.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">a\u00a0direct download\u00a0is available<\/a>, there\u2019s a\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/beerdiary.libsyn.com\/rss\">podcast-specific RSS feed<\/a>, and you should be able to get us\u00a0<a title=\"The Beer Diary Podcast, on iTunes\" href=\"http:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/nz\/podcast\/the-beer-diary-podcast\/id438440794\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">on iTunes<\/a>.\u00a0<a title=\"@GeorgeLanglands\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/#!\/GeorgeLanglands\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">George<\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0<a title=\"@Phil_Cook\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/#!\/Phil_Cook\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">myself<\/a>\u00a0can also both be reached on the Twitterthing, or you can leave comments here or\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/thebeerdiary\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">on the Bookface<\/a>.<\/p>\n<h3>Show notes:<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>(0.45) Just to give them some top-of-the-list credit, the music is from the <a href=\"http:\/\/archive.org\/details\/csr016\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Split! EP by The Coconut Monkeyrocket and Martinibomb<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>(1.05) It\u00a0<em>has<\/em> been a long time, for which I repeat my apology (above).<\/li>\n<li>(1.20) Fun fact: <a title=\"'Ferdinand Magellan', on Wikipedia\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Ferdinand_Magellan\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Magellan<\/a>\u00a0<em>didn&#8217;t<\/em> circumnagivate the globe. He only made it just past half way \u2014 only (some of) his expedition (eventually) got all the way home. I think the &#8220;wonders&#8221; in <a title=\"'Civilization (series)', on Wikipedia\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Civilization_(series)\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Civilization<\/a> confused my younger self.<\/li>\n<li>(1.30) <a title=\"Beer Diary: About\" href=\"http:\/\/philcook.net\/beerdiary\/about\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Full disclosure<\/a> is always good.<\/li>\n<li>(4.20) See? (Above.)<\/li>\n<li>(5.00)\u00a0<strong>Beer of the Week #1:<\/strong>\u00a0<strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=_lK4cX5xGiQ\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Tribute<\/a>.<\/strong> Which didn&#8217;t even have to come all this way; I&#8217;ve seen it on the shelves at Thorndon New World. (Referring to the band as <em>The Motherfuckin&#8217; D<\/em> is something George and I have done since reading\u00a0<em><a title=\"'Y: The Last Man', on Wikipedia\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Y:_The_Last_Man\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Y: The Last Man<\/a><\/em>.)<\/li>\n<li>(8.50) No photos yet, sorry. I&#8217;ll hassle George.<\/li>\n<li>(10.50) I was nervous that I was being confused by <a title=\"'Robert Pattinson', on Wikipedia\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Robert_Pattinson\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Cedric the Sparkly Vampire<\/a>, but no, he really is Ron Pattinson \u2014 and <a title=\"Shut Up About Barclay Perkins\" href=\"http:\/\/barclayperkins.blogspot.co.nz\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">his blog is wonderfully wonk-tastic reading<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>(12.15)\u00a0<em>That&#8217;s<\/em> how topical this one isn&#8217;t; the Olympics have mercifully ended.<\/li>\n<li>(13.30) Yep. That&#8217;s about right: the output of the Boston Beer Company (usually known just as Sam Adams) roughly equals the entire beer production of New Zealand \u2014 something in the order of 300M litres.<\/li>\n<li>(14.00) I was being inadvertently high-brow, there: McSorley&#8217;s is a famous pub, <a title=\"'McSorley's Old Ale House', on Wikipedia\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/McSorley's_Old_Ale_House\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">for historical and painterly reasons<\/a>. (To double up on the comic book references, it&#8217;s possible it&#8217;s in my brain thanks to\u00a0<a title=\"'Preacher (comics)', on Wikipedia\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Preacher_(comics)\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>Preacher<\/em><\/a>.)<\/li>\n<li>(15.00) Indeed; it seems the Americans seized the clean-slate provided by the repeal of Prohibition, and basically <a title=\"'Tied house', on Wikipedia\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Tied_house\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">prevented tied houses from re-appearing<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>(16.00) This is my distorted view from the Pacific, I think; Sierra Nevada is only about a third the size of Sam Adams \/ Boston Beer, in production terms.<\/li>\n<li>(18.20) <a href=\"http:\/\/beeradvocate.com\/beer\/profile\/29\/37424\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Not even remotely kidding<\/a>.\u00a0<em>Yerk<\/em>.<\/li>\n<li>(19.00)\u00a0<strong>George&#8217;s U.S. Recommendations:<\/strong> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.capecodbeer.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Cape Cod Beer<\/a>\u00a0and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.carolinabrewery.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Carolina Brewery<\/a>. Plus, the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.warrentavern.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Warren Tavern<\/a> and the <a href=\"http:\/\/hk.theponybar.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Pony Bar, Hell&#8217;s Kitchen<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>(23.10)\u00a0<strong>Beer of the Week #2: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.longtrail.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Long Trail<\/a> Coffee Stout.<\/strong> Vermont does indeed have <a href=\"http:\/\/www.leg.state.vt.us\/statutes\/fullsection.cfm?Title=07&amp;Chapter=001&amp;Section=00002\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">needlessly-weird terminology<\/a> for such things, as seems to be U.S. tradition. Also, just as a note to marketers and label designers: if I&#8217;m already holding the bottle, you don&#8217;t need to tell me how to find it. I forgot to get a photo of it, but <a title=\"'Long Trail Coffee Stout', on The Year In Beer\" href=\"http:\/\/theyearinbeer.wordpress.com\/2012\/03\/09\/tyib-review-face-off-long-trail-coffee-stout\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Google can be relied upon to come to the rescue<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>(27.50)\u00a0<strong>Unrecommendation: Croucher Coffee Stout \/ Ethiopean Pale Ale.<\/strong><\/li>\n<li>(31.00) <a href=\"http:\/\/www.captainparkers.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Captain Parker&#8217;s Pub&#8217;s website<\/a> <em>is<\/em> worth visiting&#8230;<\/li>\n<li>(34.50) I have a <em>very<\/em> involved anti-tipping rant, if anyone&#8217;s keen to hear it.<\/li>\n<li>(35.30) &#8220;Sleeped&#8221;? Getting up in the mornings really has broken me.<\/li>\n<li>(36.30) <strong>Listener demographics.<\/strong>\u00a0Because the internet will\u00a0<em>drown<\/em> you in statistics, if you let it. And\u00a0<em>bonjour<\/em>, our Mysterious Listener(s) in <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Poitou-Charentes\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Poitou-Charentes<\/a>. Also, I&#8217;m not kidding: I totally support <a title=\"'DC statehood movement', on Wikipedia\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/District_of_Columbia_statehood_movement\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">D.C. Statehood<\/a>; no taxation without representation, amirite?<\/li>\n<li>(38.50) <strong>&#8220;News&#8221;<\/strong> will largely be &#8220;olds&#8221;, since I&#8217;m so far behind in posting this. Sorry about that (again, again). Though, fittingly, I&#8217;m drinking a Deep Creek &#8216;Dusty Gringo&#8217; as I type up these notes. Alice\u00a0<em>did<\/em> finish the 365 and ring in her own personal new year \u2014 and mark its extra day with a homebrew named &#8220;Stickler&#8221;, just for good form. Although, surprisingly topically, Liberty 365 will get it&#8217;s Wellington launch at Hashigo this Thursday (i.e., the 16th).<\/li>\n<li>(42.50) This\u00a0<em>is<\/em> a busy time of year. Hence the delay (sorry; again, again, again). IPA Challenge and Matariki have been and gone \u2014 but we recorded footage at both, which we&#8217;ll post soon. And the &#8220;Matariki&#8221; trademark is pretty freakin&#8217; bogus, but it seems that the winery does own the marks in the relevant classes \u2014 which just means a) they&#8217;re over-registering bastards, and b) the Trademark Office dropped the ball, again.<\/li>\n<li>(43.30) Beervana&#8217;s now less than a week away, of course. We&#8217;ll have the new recording gizmo with us there, too, and will hopefully get some interviews and such.<\/li>\n<li>(45.20)\u00a0<strong>Recommendation:<\/strong> Three Boys Best Bitter. Seriously; have some. And Dale&#8217;s Doppelbock, which was\u00a0<em>delightful<\/em> winter fuel. And I do love <a href=\"http:\/\/thirstyboys.wordpress.com\/2012\/07\/10\/beer-haiku-7\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the Thirsty Boys&#8217; haiku<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>(50.10)\u00a0<strong>On the Beer List: Ben (&#8220;Yahtzee&#8221;) Crowshaw.<\/strong> His <a href=\"http:\/\/www.escapistmagazine.com\/videos\/view\/zero-punctuation\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">&#8216;Zero Punctuation&#8217;<\/a> is an absolute thing of genius. The &#8220;grumpy ones&#8221; I refer to here were <a title=\"Diary II entry #122: DB 'Export Beer'\" href=\"http:\/\/philcook.net\/beerdiary\/2012\/07\/09\/db-export-beer\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">D.B Export Beer<\/a> and <a title=\"Diary II entry #123: Hofbrau Maibock (and the gdmfing Reinheitsgebot)\" href=\"http:\/\/philcook.net\/beerdiary\/2012\/07\/10\/hofbrau-maibock-reinheitsgebot\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Hofbrau Maibock<\/a> ones \u2014 my Day Job Productivity Increase was de-railed shortly thereafter by said day job getting busy to ramp up toward Beervana. (And there we go: three comic book references. You should seriously read\u00a0<em><a title=\"'Transmetropolitan', on Wikipedia\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Transmetropolitan\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Transmetropolitan<\/a><\/em>. And incidentally, the author just put up <a href=\"http:\/\/www.warrenellis.com\/?p=14290\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">a mournful rant about the Olympics Closing Ceremony<\/a> which gets just the tone I mean.)<\/li>\n<li>(54.30)\u00a0<strong>Go to Beervana!<\/strong> (There will still be \u2014\u00a0<em>some<\/em> \u2014 tickets available.)<\/li>\n<li>(55.30)\u00a0Cue the music:\u00a0<a title=\"'SPLIT!' EP by The Coconut Monkeyrocket &amp; Martinibomb\" href=\"http:\/\/www.comfortstand.com\/catalog\/016\/index.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u2018Shopping for Explosives\u2019<\/a>, by\u00a0<a title=\"coconutmonkeyrocket.com\" href=\"http:\/\/www.coconutmonkeyrocket.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Coconut Monkeyrocket<\/a>. Audio editing done in\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/audacity.sourceforge.net\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Audacity<\/a>. Habitual thanks to both. And I\u00a0<em>still<\/em> have Tenacious D&#8217;s &#8216;Tribute&#8217; stuck in my head, by the way.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>We here present an unintentionally-apt reintroduction and recap podcast episode, with less of a Topic For Discussion and more just two guys sitting down over a few beers. George and I hadn&#8217;t caught up for a while, and now \u2014 collectively \u2014 we haven&#8217;t seen you lot in some time, either. But nevermind that; welcome &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/philcook.net\/beerdiary\/2012\/08\/14\/beer-diary-podcast-s02e04\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Beer Diary Podcast s02e04: Reintroduction \/ Recap<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[39],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5016","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-podcast-episodes"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":7520,"url":"https:\/\/philcook.net\/beerdiary\/2014\/09\/14\/beer-diary-podcast-s04e04\/","url_meta":{"origin":5016,"position":0},"title":"Beer Diary Podcast s04e04: Women &#038; Beer \u2014 part 2","author":"Phil","date":"September 14, 2014","format":false,"excerpt":"Following straight on \u2014 after a quick re-play of the introduction, thanks to some clever editing by George \u2014 from last weekend's episode, we're delighted to present the second half of our Very Special podcast takeover on Women & Beer, by women, drinking beer. 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