{"id":3957,"date":"2012-05-10T22:55:31","date_gmt":"2012-05-10T10:55:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/philcook.net\/beerdiary\/?p=3957"},"modified":"2026-02-07T10:25:58","modified_gmt":"2026-02-06T21:25:58","slug":"beer-diary-podcast-s02e01","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/philcook.net\/beerdiary\/2012\/05\/10\/beer-diary-podcast-s02e01\/","title":{"rendered":"Beer Diary Podcast s02e01: Collaboration"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Back for a second &#8216;season&#8217; &#8212; are more-or-less arbitrary division, but we watch a fair amount of (good) TV and can&#8217;t help but think of things like that &#8212; George and I sat down a little while ago to talk about collaboration in craft beer.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"border: medium;\" title=\"Embed Player\" src=\"https:\/\/play.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/1941137\/height\/128\/theme\/modern\/size\/standard\/thumbnail\/no\/custom-color\/24890d\/time-start\/00:00:00\/playlist-height\/200\/direction\/backward\/download\/yes\/font-color\/FFFFFF\" width=\"100%\" height=\"128\" scrolling=\"no\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>As always,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/beerdiary\/s02e01_Colab_Beer.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">a\u00a0direct download<\/a>\u00a0is available, there\u2019s a\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/beerdiary.libsyn.com\/rss\">podcast-specific RSS feed<\/a>, and you should be able to get us\u00a0<a title=\"The Beer Diary Podcast, on iTunes\" href=\"http:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/nz\/podcast\/the-beer-diary-podcast\/id438440794\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">on iTunes<\/a>.\u00a0<a title=\"@GeorgeLanglands\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/#!\/GeorgeLanglands\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">George<\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0<a title=\"@Phil_Cook\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/#!\/Phil_Cook\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">myself<\/a>\u00a0can also both be reached on the Twitterthing, or you can leave comments here or <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/thebeerdiary\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">on the Bookface<\/a>.<\/p>\n<h3>Show notes:<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>(2.00) <strong>Beer of the Week:\u00a0Garage Project \/ N\u00f8gne \u00d8\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/garageproject.co.nz\/post\/16340550984\/not-as-good-as-gold\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">&#8216;Summer Sommer C\u00f8llab&#8217;<\/a><\/strong>. I didn&#8217;t get a photo of the beer in the glass, <a title=\"'Summer Sommer', on Beer for a Year\" href=\"http:\/\/beerforayear.wordpress.com\/2012\/03\/12\/213-garage-projectnogne-o-collab-summersommer\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">but Alice did<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>(2.25) <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=vacgOL1Nd_4\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The &#8216;\u00d8 for Awesome&#8217; video<\/a> is totally worth a look. Jed Soane was on hand <a title=\"'O for Awesome', on thebeerproject.com\" href=\"http:\/\/thebeerproject.com\/blog\/2012\/02\/%C3%B8-for-awesome\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">to take photos, as well<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>(5.00) <a href=\"http:\/\/www.coromandelbrewingcompany.co.nz\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Coromandel Brewing Company<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>(6.20) Speaking of making-of stuff, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=MCE5KU5ns7g\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">&#8216;Summer Sommer&#8217; itself has a video online<\/a>, and Jed was <a href=\"http:\/\/thebeerproject.com\/blog\/2011\/11\/n%c3%b8gne-%c3%b8-garage-project-collaboration\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>there<\/em>\u00a0on brew day<\/a>, too. All the peculiarities are nicely documented, as is Garage Project&#8217;s original little brew kit. <a title=\"'Wellington's Worst-Kept Secret', on garageproject.co.nz\" href=\"http:\/\/garageproject.co.nz\/post\/22367406578\/wellingtons-worst-kept-secret-aka-weve-got-a-brewery\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Things have changed <em>massively<\/em><\/a>, <a title=\"Podcast s01e05: The Garage Project\" href=\"http:\/\/philcook.net\/beerdiary\/2011\/06\/04\/beer-diary-podcast-s01e05\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">since our first visit<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>(6.55) By &#8216;Dwarven Fighting Bread&#8217;, <a title=\"'Dwarf Bread', on the Discworld Wiki\" href=\"http:\/\/wiki.lspace.org\/wiki\/Dwarf_Bread\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">I mean this stuff<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>(7.20) We <em>loved<\/em>\u00a0Liberty &#8216;C!tra&#8217;, as <a title=\"Podcast s01e08: Strong Beer\" href=\"http:\/\/philcook.net\/beerdiary\/2011\/06\/27\/beer-diary-podcast-s01e08\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">you can hear in s01e08<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>(8.00) Collaboration beers in the <em>Diary<\/em>: <a title=\"Diary II entry #41: Epic \/ Dogfish Head 'Portamarillo'\" href=\"http:\/\/philcook.net\/beerdiary\/2010\/12\/15\/epic-dogfish-head-portamarillo\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Epic \/ Dogfish Head &#8216;Portamarillo&#8217;<\/a>, <a title=\"Diary II entry #79: NZ Craft Beer TV 'Mash Up'\" href=\"http:\/\/philcook.net\/beerdiary\/2011\/03\/24\/nz-craft-beer-tv-mash-up\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Epic \/ NZ Craft Beer TV &#8216;Mash Up&#8217;<\/a>, <a title=\"Diary II entry #105: Renaissance \/ 8 Wired \/ Yeastie Boys 'Rescue Red'\" href=\"http:\/\/philcook.net\/beerdiary\/2011\/05\/26\/rescue-red\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Renaissance \/ 8 Wired \/ Yeastie Boys &#8216;Rescue Red&#8217;<\/a>, <a title=\"Diary II entry #116: Liberty \/ Mike's 'Taranaki Pale Ale'\" href=\"http:\/\/philcook.net\/beerdiary\/2011\/06\/25\/liberty-mikes-taranaki-pale-ale\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Liberty \/ Mike&#8217;s &#8216;Taranaki Pale Ale&#8217;<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>(11.20) Jamie Oliver&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tefal.co.uk\/Tefal+magazine\/Jamie+Oliver\/Discover+Thermo-Spot\/Discover+Thermo-Spot.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">red-spot frypan-thing<\/a> freaks me out. I can&#8217;t cook, but would&#8217;ve thought it wasn&#8217;t true that everything has the same &#8216;ideal&#8217; temperature&#8230;<\/li>\n<li>(12.10) It was <a title=\"'Lulu', on Wikipedia\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Lulu_(Lou_Reed_and_Metallica_album)\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Lou Reed<\/a>. I still haven&#8217;t given it a listen. Not sure I want to.<\/li>\n<li>(12.30) <em>Brews News<\/em> has a good write-up on <a title=\"'Goat Dog Bay Collaboration Day', on BrewsNews.com.au\" href=\"http:\/\/www.brewsnews.com.au\/2011\/04\/goat-dog-bay-collaboration-day\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Abbortsford Collaboration<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>(17.20) Just to get a hat-trick of Jed: he was at <a href=\"http:\/\/thebeerproject.com\/blog\/2011\/04\/sais-of-relief\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the &#8216;Rescue Red&#8217; brew<\/a>, <em>as well<\/em>.<\/li>\n<li>(19.50) Turned out the unannounced &#8216;Month of Mild&#8217; was a Fork &amp; Brewer thing, not a Malthouse thing. I tried &#8212; speaking of collaborations &#8212; a Garage Project \/ Liberty one, which was rather charming, but didn&#8217;t get down the road for more than that.<\/li>\n<li>(27.00) Tuatara have expanded (and relocated) lately, and <em>are<\/em>\u00a0getting back in the game. More power to them, I say.<\/li>\n<li>(29.00) <strong>Recommendations:\u00a0Garage Project &#8216;Pernicious Weed&#8217;<\/strong>. Given the lag in posting this, that&#8217;s a bit of a tease, but I did see it at The Hop Garden very recently &#8212; and I have a single 750ml bottle in my fridge, if you have something to share in return. And <strong>Epic &#8216;Epicurean: Coffee &amp; Fig\u00a0Oatmeal Stout&#8217;<\/strong>. (The <em>Simpsons<\/em>\u00a0reference is to <a href=\"http:\/\/simpsons.wikia.com\/wiki\/Bart_vs._Australia\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">s06e16, &#8216;Bart vs. Australia&#8217;<\/a>, which is utterly genius &#8212; despite starting from some flawed physics about <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Coriolis_effect\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the Coriolis effect<\/a> &#8212; and worth re-watching. Amazingly, it&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=imeQs7rkPRs\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">on YouTube in its entirety<\/a> as at time of writing. Don&#8217;t <em>just<\/em>\u00a0skip to the eight-minute mark.)<\/li>\n<li>(33.10) George can&#8217;t confirm the purchase of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.laffare.co.nz\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">L&#8217;Affare<\/a> by anyone, but we&#8217;re fairly certain that Ferrari aren&#8217;t involved. They <em>do<\/em> have cafes in Auckland and Christchurch.<\/li>\n<li>(35.30) The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=dTvVbWWLGpc\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">&#8216;That Man Deserves a DB&#8217;<\/a> ad.<\/li>\n<li>(37.30) <strong>On the Beer List: Richard Emerson<\/strong>. I still can&#8217;t think of a worthy beer for him, though. Suggestions <em>needed<\/em>, not just welcome.<\/li>\n<li>(43.20) Cue the music:\u00a0<a title=\"'SPLIT!' EP by The Coconut Monkeyrocket &amp; Martinibomb\" href=\"http:\/\/www.comfortstand.com\/catalog\/016\/index.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u2018Shopping for Explosives\u2019<\/a>, by\u00a0<a title=\"coconutmonkeyrocket.com\" href=\"http:\/\/www.coconutmonkeyrocket.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Coconut Monkeyrocket<\/a>. Audio editing done in <a href=\"http:\/\/audacity.sourceforge.net\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Audacity<\/a>. Habitual thanks to both.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Back for a second &#8216;season&#8217; &#8212; are more-or-less arbitrary division, but we watch a fair amount of (good) TV and can&#8217;t help but think of things like that &#8212; George and I sat down a little while ago to talk about collaboration in craft beer.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[39],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3957","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-podcast-episodes"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":17254,"url":"https:\/\/philcook.net\/beerdiary\/2015\/08\/14\/beervana-2014-podcasts\/","url_meta":{"origin":3957,"position":0},"title":"Beervana 2014 \u2015 the lost live podcasts","author":"Phil","date":"August 14, 2015","format":false,"excerpt":"Just in time for those missing out on\u00a0this year's Beervana, a blast from the past. 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