{"id":3100,"date":"2011-05-14T00:01:49","date_gmt":"2011-05-13T12:01:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/philcook.net\/beerdiary\/?p=3100"},"modified":"2026-02-07T10:13:10","modified_gmt":"2026-02-06T21:13:10","slug":"beer-diary-podcast-s01e03","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/philcook.net\/beerdiary\/2011\/05\/14\/beer-diary-podcast-s01e03\/","title":{"rendered":"Beer Diary Podcast episode 3: Stonecutter, Winter Beers (and Rex Attitude)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The weather took a serious turn for the freezing-cold just as we were contemplating our third episode, so something on Winter beers seemed suitable and sensible. It also gives us a chance to talk a bit about how breaking habits, taking chances, and paying a little more attention-to-situation <em>in general<\/em> can do a beer drinker a world of good.\u00a0I bought a bottle of Yeastie Boys &#8216;Rex Attitude&#8217; to have after the recording, too, but when it turned out that George hadn&#8217;t actually gotten around to having one yet, we decided to &#8216;start rolling&#8217; again and capture his reaction.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"border: medium;\" title=\"Embed Player\" src=\"https:\/\/play.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/1666293\/height\/128\/theme\/modern\/size\/standard\/thumbnail\/no\/custom-color\/24890d\/time-start\/00:00:00\/playlist-height\/200\/direction\/backward\/download\/yes\/font-color\/FFFFFF\" width=\"100%\" height=\"128\" scrolling=\"no\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>A <a href=\"http:\/\/traffic.libsyn.com\/beerdiary\/s01e03_-_Stonecutter.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">direct download<\/a> is available, there&#8217;s a <a href=\"http:\/\/beerdiary.libsyn.com\/rss\">podcast-specific RSS feed<\/a>, and you should be able to get us <a title=\"The Beer Diary Podcast, on iTunes\" href=\"http:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/nz\/podcast\/the-beer-diary-podcast\/id438440794\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">on iTunes<\/a>.<\/p>\n<h3>Show notes:<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>(1.20) Somewhat slack and distracted and (most recently) under-the-weather, I haven&#8217;t set up any such email yet. My bad. But obviously you should feel free to comment here, contact me via Twitter (@phil_cook), or whatever.<\/li>\n<li>(2.30) George and I were frantically busy with another project between the recording-of and posting-of days for this episode. I do hope you excuse the confusing dates with which these things are officially tagged &#8212; it&#8217;s mostly a fiction to keep them in the correct running order with the actual <em>Diary<\/em> entries. Anyway, last Thurdsay (i.e., July 14), the Radler &#8216;verdict&#8217; came down. In D.B.&#8217;s favour, depressingly.<\/li>\n<li>(4.15)\u00a0<strong>Beer of the Week:<\/strong> Renaissance &#8216;Stonecutter&#8217;, which <a title=\"Lazy Diary entry: Renaissance 'Stonecutter'\" href=\"http:\/\/philcook.net\/beerdiary\/2008\/10\/17\/renaissance-stonecutter\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">I&#8217;ve loved for ages<\/a>, and definitely not just because of <a title=\"'Homer the Great', on Wikipedia\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Homer_the_Great\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the Simpsons reference<\/a>, although that counts as pretty awesome gravy. We had this as one of several &#8216;Winter Beers&#8217; at a tasting I hosted last Friday, and when I mentioned the reference, one of the attendees revealed that he was wearing a tshirt with the Stonecutter&#8217;s logo. Just brilliant.<\/li>\n<li>(7.40) It won&#8217;t just be the strength; there is apparently a small amount of peated malt used as part of the varied-and-enormous grain bill.<\/li>\n<li>(8.20) Yeah, <a title=\"'Banoffee pie', on Wikipedia\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Banoffee_pie\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">&#8220;Banoffee&#8221;<\/a> is a straightforward portmanteau of &#8216;banana&#8217; and &#8216;toffee&#8217;, rather than its own thing. Which is almost disappointing, but the occasion to use the word <a title=\"'Portmanteau', on Wikipedia\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Portmanteau\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">&#8216;portmanteau&#8217;<\/a> does make up for it.<\/li>\n<li>(12.50) There are few things more frustrating than an upset English customer telling you that the beer here is too cold, and not &#8216;warm&#8217; like at home. Room-temperature consumption is a myth &#8212; at least as a general practice, some oddballs notwithstanding.<\/li>\n<li>(22.10) Yeastie Boys &#8216;Her Majesty&#8217; <em>this year<\/em> is utterly, utterly different from <a title=\"Diary II entry #1: Yeastie Boys 'Her Majesty 2010'\" href=\"http:\/\/philcook.net\/beerdiary\/2010\/09\/06\/yeastie-boys-her-majesty-2010\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">last year&#8217;s<\/a> &#8212; though you can&#8217;t feel <em>too bad<\/em> when those guys go and ruin your preconceptions; they do that all the damn time. I liked this year&#8217;s a <em>lot<\/em>, but it&#8217;s not remotely in the camp of beers I&#8217;m talking about, here, it turns out.<\/li>\n<li>(23.30) I will never stop recommending <a title=\"Diary II entry #89: 8 Wired 'iStout' Ice Cream Float\" href=\"http:\/\/philcook.net\/beerdiary\/2011\/04\/15\/8-wired-istout-ice-cream-float\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the imperial stout ice-cream float<\/a>. It&#8217;s <em>divine<\/em> and such a weird experience. I&#8217;ve converted a few people, and you really should add yourself to that list.<\/li>\n<li>(27.10) Beer is widely-varied enough that there are <em>always exceptions to everything<\/em>. Since a run-in with an off bottle of Peak Brewery&#8217;s &#8216;Monkey Point IPA&#8217;, <em>strawberry<\/em> (particularly strawberry <em>yoghurt<\/em>) has been a running-joke stand-in for offness and horror. But now Taranaki&#8217;s Liberty Brewing have put out a &#8216;High Carb Ale\u00ae&#8217; which uses big doses of New Zealand-grown Chinook hops that lend it a distinct strawberry-ish flavour &#8212; in a good way, this time.<\/li>\n<li>(33.05) <a title=\"'Rex Attitude' by Laurent Garnier, on YouTube.com\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=TeGR6rCE5lI\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Rex Attitude<\/a> is a track by Laurent Garnier. Go have a listen; it&#8217;s suitably odd. <a title=\"'The Rex Attitude' on yeastieboys.posterous.com\" href=\"http:\/\/yeastieboys.posterous.com\/the-rex-attitude\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Apparently<\/a> the tune just came on Stu&#8217;s iPod as he was contemplating the beer, so the two were fused together in his head.<\/li>\n<li>(33.50) Jed&#8217;s <a title=\"'The Rex Attitude', on thebeerproject.com\" href=\"http:\/\/thebeerproject.com\/blog\/2011\/05\/the-rex-attitude\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">photos from the launch party<\/a> are awesome. And his website is indeed <a title=\"thebeerproject.com\" href=\"http:\/\/thebeerproject.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">thebeerproject.com<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>(34.40) Nope; I still can&#8217;t quite make that joke work.<\/li>\n<li>(36.00) <strong>Midstrength News<\/strong>, with a 7%-er in hand. Because everything in moderation &#8212; including moderation. As they say. <a title=\"Diary II entry #36: Hallertau 'Minimus'\" href=\"http:\/\/philcook.net\/beerdiary\/2010\/11\/18\/hallertau-minimus\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Hallertau &#8216;Minimus&#8217;<\/a> is glorious, and its Winterised Cousin is just as lovely &#8212; not <em>massively<\/em> modified, just darkened up from &#8216;gold&#8217; to &#8216;bronze&#8217;.<\/li>\n<li>(38.50) <a title=\"nzcraftbeer.tv\" href=\"http:\/\/nzcraftbeer.tv\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">NZCraftBeer.tv<\/a> is definitely worth a look, although it seems in need of an update. New episodes do pop up on <a title=\"NZCraftBeerTV, on YouTube.com\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/user\/NZCraftBeerTV\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">their YouTube channel<\/a>.\u00a0Kelly&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/nzcraftbeer.tv\/tripjournal\/2011\/3\/2\/the-worlds-largest-craft-beer-collaboration.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">big-long blogpost about &#8216;Mash Up&#8217;<\/a> is a great read, and <a title=\"Diary II entry #79: NZ Craft Beer TV 'Mash Up'\" href=\"http:\/\/philcook.net\/beerdiary\/2011\/03\/24\/nz-craft-beer-tv-mash-up\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">I thought the beer was pretty lovely, too<\/a>. <a title=\"Diary II entry #101: Epic 'Hop Zombie' IIPA\" href=\"http:\/\/philcook.net\/beerdiary\/2011\/05\/12\/epic-hop-zombie-iipa\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Hop Zombie IIPA<\/a> &#8212; a.k.a. &#8220;One Trick Pony&#8221; &#8212; turned out <em>marvellous<\/em>.<\/li>\n<li>(43.20) <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Fq6BFHfJeNE\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">&#8216;Re: Your Brains&#8217;<\/a> by Jonathan Coulton really is a masterpiece. <a title=\"jonathancoulton.com\" href=\"http:\/\/www.jonathancoulton.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">JonathanCoulton.com<\/a> has samples and downloads and a store and everything.<\/li>\n<li>(43.50) Cue the music:\u00a0<a title=\"'SPLIT!' EP by The Coconut Monkeyrocket &amp; Martinibomb\" href=\"http:\/\/www.comfortstand.com\/catalog\/016\/index.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u2018Shopping for Explosives\u2019<\/a>, by\u00a0<a title=\"coconutmonkeyrocket.com\" href=\"http:\/\/www.coconutmonkeyrocket.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Coconut Monkeyrocket<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>(44.05) <strong>Special Bonus Extra Beer of the Week:<\/strong> <a title=\"Diary II entry #96: Yeastie Boys 'Rex Attitude'\" href=\"http:\/\/philcook.net\/beerdiary\/2011\/04\/29\/yeastie-boys-rex-attitude\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Yeastie Boys &#8216;Rex Attitude&#8217;<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>(45.50) You really should watch <em><a title=\"'The Trip', on Wikipedia\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/The_Trip_(2010_film)\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Trip<\/a><\/em>. Seriously. Check out <a title=\"'The Trip' trailer, on YouTube.com\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Xxq-I_e_KXg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the trailer<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>(51.00) It was simply called <a title=\"'Speight's Harvest', on RateBeer.com\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ratebeer.com\/beer\/speights-harvest\/46969\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">&#8216;Speight&#8217;s Harvest&#8217;<\/a>, and George and I tried it with our friend Aran, who had just gotten a delivery of &#8220;bacon salt&#8221; from the weirdly-wonderful <a title=\"baconsalt.com\" href=\"http:\/\/baconsalt.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">BaconSalt.com<\/a> (tagline: &#8220;Everything should taste like bacon&#8221;). Hating the beer, we threw in the salt for a laugh. It didn&#8217;t help.<\/li>\n<li>(52.10) It&#8217;s known generally as <a title=\"'Overtone singing', on Wikipedia\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Overtone_singing\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">&#8216;Overtone singing&#8217;<\/a>, and there are various traditions around the World; all of it fairly freaky to my ears, too. Check out <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=DY1pcEtHI_w\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Tuvan<\/a> or <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=_x86SiUS7oA\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Inuit<\/a> examples, if you doubt us.<\/li>\n<li>(55.40) Cue the music, again:\u00a0<a title=\"'SPLIT!' EP by The Coconut Monkeyrocket &amp; Martinibomb\" href=\"http:\/\/www.comfortstand.com\/catalog\/016\/index.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u2018Shopping for Explosives\u2019<\/a>, by\u00a0<a title=\"coconutmonkeyrocket.com\" href=\"http:\/\/www.coconutmonkeyrocket.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Coconut Monkeyrocket<\/a>.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The weather took a serious turn for the freezing-cold just as we were contemplating our third episode, so something on Winter beers seemed suitable and sensible. It also gives us a chance to talk a bit about how breaking habits, taking chances, and paying a little more attention-to-situation in general can do a beer drinker &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/philcook.net\/beerdiary\/2011\/05\/14\/beer-diary-podcast-s01e03\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Beer Diary Podcast episode 3: Stonecutter, Winter Beers (and Rex Attitude)<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[39],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3100","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-podcast-episodes"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":3229,"url":"https:\/\/philcook.net\/beerdiary\/2011\/06\/01\/beer-diary-podcast-s01e04\/","url_meta":{"origin":3100,"position":0},"title":"Beer Diary Podcast episode 4: Emerson&#8217;s Bookbinder and Midstrength Beer","author":"Phil","date":"June 1, 2011","format":false,"excerpt":"I was in the very-vague planning stages for a Midstrength Beer tasting (which did eventually, er, eventuate) and George and I thought that the topic itself was worthy of a longer discussion, not merely a little recurring segment -- although we'll keep that, too. 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